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Theology and Godhead.htm Who
Wrote The Greek Bible Grammatical Rules?—
CONSIDER THE SOURCE: For The
Bible That You Read? “and the Word was God,”
(1) Greeks.
(2) Experts in Greek Mythology and false religion.
(3) Trinitarians! (And Oneness Greek Bible Publishers)
That’s right! The rules of Greek grammar were written by Greek speaking people
who did not believe in the true God of the Bible. They did not know about the
Son of God, Jesus Christ.
Or if they already knew about Jesus Christ
they wrote the grammatical rules after the fact and made them fit their belief
in a false (man-made) Trinity.
It is not surprising
that they contrived a mysterious god-head they called the Trinity, after all
they believed in fictitious religious beings such as Zeus, Apollos
and Hercules. Zeus was considered the father of many gods. The Greeks, like the
Romans, and many other heathen societies believed in many “multiples of gods.”
Will you allow men who believed in false gods to dictate how you translate the
inspired Word of God at John 1:1?
Will you allow grammatical rules to control your faith?
(Other
Good References Open WhatIsagod.htm and Open AFact.htm )------Continue
OR WILL YOU ACCEPT THE PROOF FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE HOLY
SCRIPTURES?
CONTEXT… PROVES TWO SEPARATE SPIRIT BEINGS: The context of John 1:1
emphatically indicates that it is talking about Jesus Christ, the Son of God,
and God as two separate spirit beings. Bible authorities agree that “the Word”
is Jesus Christ. The same verse, John 1:1, indicates
that God and Jesus Christ are two separate beings when it says that “the Word
was with God.” The Greek “pros” means ‘with,’ ‘by the side
of’ and ‘near to” indicating two separate beings. Listen to what Bible
scholars say about the Greek word pros:
“This word ‘with’ points out that there is a distinction of persons here.”
(Geneva Bible Translation Notes)
“This expression denotes friendship or intimacy. John affirms that he (Jesus)
was “with God” in the beginning - that is, before the world was made.” (Albert
Barnes Notes on the Bible)
“Though existing eternally with God the Logos was in perfect fellowship with
God.” (Robertson’s Word Pictures)
“The preposition “pros” implies not just proximity, but intimate personal
relationship. (
“was with God”--having a conscious personal existence distinct from God (as one
is from the person he is "with"), but inseparable from Him and
associated with Him.” (Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown
Commentary)
CONTEXT….JESUS CHRIST IDENTIFIED AS THE “
Even Satan knew him as the “Son of God.” (Matthew 4:6)
The demons and unclean spirits recognized him as the “Son of God.” (Mark
The centurion who guarded him at his death admitted that Jesus was the Son of
God. (Mark
The Gospel writer Mark identified Jesus as the “Son of God.” (Mark 1:1) All of
the Gospel writers knew that Jesus Christ was the “Son of God.”
Nathanael called Jesus the “Son of God.” (John 1:49)
Jesus spoke of himself as the “Son of God.” (John 11:4)
Martha knew that Jesus was the “Son of God.” (John 11:27)
John the Baptist proclaimed Jesus as the “Son of God.” (John 1:34)
CONTEXT…APOSTLE PAUL KNEW THE
CONTEXT…APOSTLE JOHN KNEW JESUS CHRIST, THE
APOSTLE JOHN KNEW THAT JESUS HAD A GOD: John was inspired to write Jesus' words
at John 20:17 when he told Mary: "Go to my brothers, and say to them, I
ascend to my Father and you’re Father, and my God and your
God.” Did you get that? Jesus called God...his God! John was also inspired to
write Jesus' words at Revelation
“ THE REVELATION GOD GAVE TO JESUS CHRIST, so that he
could tell his servants the things that must soon take place. Christ then sent
his angel to communicate the symbolic message to his servant John.” (Revelation
1:1) (NSB) It was obvious to John at the time he wrote these words that Jesus
and the congregation of believers were united in harmony with the Father. (John
14:10, 20) It was also obvious that God was in charge and that Jesus Christ was
subservient to his Father. (John 14:28) (1 Corinthians 11:3) The entire context
of the Holy Scriptures shows that John recognized Jesus Christ as the Son of
God and not as God.
THE EMBLEMATIC LANGUAGE OF JOHN 1:1: When the apostle John wrote the first
verse of his Gospel he was inspired to express a visible symbol for something
very abstract…very abstract! He established three basic Biblical facts in that
one verse: (1) The Word was alive in the beginning. (2) The Word was with God.
(3) The Word was God. John attempted to explain these basic beliefs in the
inspired Gospel of John, the three Letters of John, and the book of Revelation.
The serious Bible student needs to study and meditate on all of the Bible books
written by John in order to understand the Emblematic Language of John 1:1. The
entire context of Johns writings show that Jesus
Christ is the Son of God…NOT GOD!
What was John talking about when he wrote: “theos en ho logos” God was the Word? According to the
context of the New Testament, he was talking about Jesus Christ (the Word) as a
member of the God Family. Jesus was a divine spirit actively serving in heaven
with his heavenly Father before he came to earth. He is a divine spirit now
serving in heaven along side his heavenly Father.
“GOD-LIKE” EXPRESSES ACCURATE MEANING: The New Simplified Bible uses one of the
other accurate meanings of the Greek word “theos,”
Godly, God-like, or like God. This reference to Jesus Christ, the Word, as
being God-like is fitting since he is a member of the God family and is
therefore very much like his heavenly Father. It is in a relative sense that
Jesus Christ could even be considered God. After all he is not his own Father
and his Father truly is God.
THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST:
The debate continues… Is Jesus Christ deity? Or is he not deity? The following
Biblical evidence proves that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, spiritually
powerful like his Father, and very much qualified to be a deity! But GOD, not
Jesus Christ, is the true Deity!
(1) Jesus Christ is a supernatural (spiritual) being. (1 Corinthians 10:4)
(2) He is divine. (Colossians 2:9)
(3) Jesus lives forever. (Revelation 11:15; 22:5)
(4) Jesus is a priest forever. (Hebrews 7:17, 21)
(5) Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (Mark
(6) After living as a man on earth, he is now at the right hand of God. (Acts
(7) Like his Father, Jesus Christ is the Savior. (2 Samuel 22:2) (Isaiah 43:3)
(2 Peter 1:11)
(8) Jesus and his Father are united in thought (purpose) and deed. (John
(9) Jesus Christ is second in command in the entire universe. (1 Corinthians
15:27)
(10) Jesus has a God. (John 20:17) (Revelation 3:12)
DEFINITION OF DEITY: The Word-Web Dictionary from
Is Jesus Christ God? NO! But using this definition Jesus could be considered a
deity. That is why some call him “a god.” And he is truly “God-like” in his
nature. (Philippians 2:5, 6) The Holy Scriptures clearly identify the position
of Jesus Christ in heaven. He is second in command. GOD is first! (Hebrews
10:12, 13) (Colossians 3:1) (1 John 2:1)
JESUS CHRIST IS THE BEGOTTEN
• (NSB) JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was like God (God-like). (Greek:
Theos: a deity, a god, magistrate, supreme God,
God-like).
The transliterated Greek of this verse looks like this:
En arche en ho logos kai ho
logos
In beginning was the Word and the word
en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos
was with the God and God-like was the Word
Reference Open-Trinity,
Colwell's Rule
http://www.webspawner.com/users/newsimplifiedbible/nsbnotestrinity6.html
Open AFact.htm
1 In
an ancient time there was the Word.
John Chapter 1
The Word or Expression of a Thought?
The Greek word logos is
often rightly translated as word. However, logos
implies a greater meaning than that; it means the expression of a
thought. So, Jesus is truly the complete expression of God’s thoughts.
People have often wondered why John used such unusual
wording to start this, his literary masterpiece. It is obvious he was
explaining Genesis 1:1-3. Notice how that scripture reads, ‘In an ancient
time (gr. en arche) God created the
heavens and the earth. But the earth was unsightly and unfinished, darkness
covered its depths, and God’s Breath moved over its waters. Then God spoke (gr.
eipen), saying, May there be light, and
light came to be.’
So, you can see that God spoke, and the things came
into existence by means of some unnamed person or force.
Now, follow John’s opening words (at John 1:1) and notice
how they dovetail with and explain Genesis 1:1: ‘In an ancient time (gr. en
arche) there was the Word . . . He was with
God long ago. Everything came into existence through him. Life came into
existence through him and the life was the light of men.’
As you can see, the account in Genesis says that God spoke
things into existence, and John is explaining what God said (what the ‘Word’ or
the ‘Expression of the thought’ was). In other words, God ‘spoke’ and the
‘Word’ (Jesus in his prehuman existence) did the
work.
So, if John 1:1 appears to support the idea of a trinity to
some, this is unintentional. John is simply trying to impress on his readers
that, although Jesus isn’t mentioned in Genesis 1:1, he was there with God and
was himself a powerful god who actually did the work (with God’s power) when
God ‘spoke’ the heavens and earth into existence.
Are we to conclude from John’s writing here that Jesus’
heavenly name is ton Logos (the Word or Expression of a thought)? No!
Recognize that John was just employing an inspired play on words to draw
attention to the phrasing of Genesis 1:1. Jesus’ prehuman
name was likely Michael, which means: Who is Like God (not a question but a
statement). And John called him ‘the Word’ to point out Jesus’ most ancient
high position as a co-worker with God, who created whatever things God spoke.
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The simple answer is yes… if you understand what the word
god means. This idea may be a bit difficult to grasp for people who were raised
in a monotheistic society where God refers to just One.
However, remember that the Greeks (whose language we are translating) were a
polytheistic society (they worshiped many gods), and to them the word theos referred to a large
group of individuals who were simply more powerful than men. So, theos just meant powerful
one, not Creator (which is what the Hebrew name Jehovah implies –
He who causes to be).
To prove that translating the word Theos
as powerful is correct, notice how the Bible calls men gods at Psalm 82:6
(which Jesus also quotes at John 10:34-36), where it says, ‘I said You
are gods; of the Most
High you’re sons!’
Also, notice that at Exodus 7:1, God told Moses, ‘Look! I’ve
made you a god to Pharaoh,
and your brother Aaron is your prophet.’
So, the terms god and gods just refer to the powerful. And
even men can be gods… that is, in the truest sense of the word’s meaning
(powerful ones). Thus, a word-for-word literal translation of John 1:1 can
read, ‘In ancient time was the Word; and the Word was toward the Powerful
One; and powerful was the Word.’
Then, why did we use the term God, rather than Powerful One,
at John 1:1? We’ve left the first term (God) in place, because that’s what
people call the Divine One today.
So, is the Logos the God or just god (powerful)?
From the context of John 1:1, it appears as though Jesus (the Logos) is theos – powerful – but not The God (gr. ton Theon). For notice that Jesus described himself as
simply God’s son (gr. Uios tou Theou eimi)
at John 10:36.
Also notice that (at John 1:1) Logos (λογος) and Theon
(θεον) are both preceded
by the definite article the (ο λογος
and τον θεον),
except in the case where the Logos is referred to simply as theos (θεος).
By employing such wording, John was obviously differentiating Jesus from The
God. You can clearly see the differences in the words when you read John 1:1, 2
in Greek: ‘Eν αρχη
ην ο λογος,
και ο λογος
ην προς
τον θεον, και
θεος ην ο λογος.
Oυτος ην εν
αρχη προς
τον θεον.’
That the early Christians didn’t view Jesus as the God is
supported by the fact that Christians still worshiped at the Temple of Jehovah
in Jerusalem until shortly before it was destroyed in 70-C.E. (see Acts the Twentieth chapter).
This is because Christian Jews didn’t consider Christianity to be a new
religion with a new god, but rather, that it was the natural outgrowth of the
old, and Jesus was the promised ‘Messiah’ or ‘Anointed One of God’ who was to
assume ‘the throne of David his father.’
For more information, see the document, Who
Was Jesus? Also for more information, see the linked Note in Psalms ‘The Gods of Psalm 82.’
To see how Jesus was described at John 1:1 in the most
ancient Coptic texts, see the link http://depts.washington.edu/cartah/text_archive/coptic/coptjohn.shtml,
and to see why the Coptic texts are relevant, see the link http://www.integlogic.com/sahidica/pages/sahidicpaper1990.html.
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Jesus was referred to (herein) as the only-created son
at John
In other Bibles, this word is rendered as only begotten,
but begotten isn’t exactly a word that you would read in the newspaper
today (where ‘common’ American English may be read), so not everyone will
understand what that means either. Remember that the goal of these translators
to choose words that are common, easy to understand, and which carry the proper
nuance in contemporary American English.
We also might have used the terms only fathered, or, only
conceived, or, only born. However, none of those words accurately
describes the situation of Jesus. For, while he was the only son ever born
through a woman to God, He was also the only creature (son, god, or powerful
one) that was directly created by God. For, John went on to elaborate on what
he actually meant at Revelation 3:14, where he referred to Jesus as ‘the
earliest creation of God’ (gr. he arche tes ktiseos tou Theou – or – the
most/ancient creation of/the God). And John wrote of Jesus at John 1:3,
‘Everything [else] came into existence through him’ (gr. panta
di autou egeneto – or – all by him generated).
So, although the term only created may not be exactly
what was said in a word-for-word translation, it appears to be what John meant
in this case.
From http://www.2001translation.com/JOHN.htm#_The_Word_or_Expression_of_a_Thought
SBT Is
building a full reference Page on AllManuscriptsWereWrittenInAllCaps.htm
BiblePublishersAccountableToWho.htm
At the time the New Testament was written, Greek
manuscripts were written in all capital letters.
The upper and lower case letters were not blended as we
do today. Thus, the distinction that we today make between “God” and “god” could not be
made, and the context became the judge in determining to whom “THEOS”
referred
Jn 1:1
(4.) The last
phrase in the verse, which most versions translate as “and the Word was God,” should not be translated that way.
The Greek language uses the word “God” (Greek = theos) to refer to the Father as well as to
other authorities. These include the Open Devil (2 Cor.Open 4:4
It All About The
Bible Publisher’s Theology-
Compare BIG –G or small g Example1Jn1-1.htm
Open http://www.friktech.com/rel/canon/types.htm
Look at the letters in the Codex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex
Plus http://www.ntcanon.org/ HowTheBibleBooksWereChoosen.htm
Study BiblePunctuationMarksPLUS.
At the time the New Testament was written, Greek
manuscripts were written in all capital letters.
Although context is the final arbiter, it is almost
always the case in the New Testament that when “God” refers to the Father, the
definite article appears in the Greek text (this article can be seen only in
the Greek text, it is never translated into English). Translators are normally
very sensitive to this Open (see
John 10:33).
The difference between theos
with and without the article occurs in John 1:1: “In the beginning was the
Word, and the Word was with “the theos,”
and the Word was “theos.” Since the definite
article is missing from the second occurrence of “theos”
(“God,”) the usual meaning would be “god” or “divine.” The New English Bible
gets the sense of this phrase by translating it, “What God was, the Word was.” James Moffatt who
was a professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at
Is the god,---YHWH in 2 Cor.Open
4:4
Vine’s Dictionary is not up
to speed on this either--–That shows their Bias also to the Nicene Creeds
Open --VinesOn-agodPLUS.htm
in
BestBibleDictionariesPLUS.htm DictionaryExample.htm and Study FirstBorn.htm-- WhatIsagod.htm
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Open John 10:33 |
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1. Any difficulty in understanding this verse is caused by the
translators. Had
they faithfully rendered the Greek text in verse 33 as they did in verses 34
and 35, then it would read, “…you, a man, claim to be a god.” In the
next two verses, John 10:34 and 35, the exact same word (theos,
without the article) is translated as “god,” not “God.” The point was made
under John
1:1 that usually when “God” is meant, the noun theos
has the definite article. |
(Section 4) Open John 1:1 Also Open John 20:28---
JOHN1onePLUS.htm
and
http://www.searchgodsword.org/par/ enter Acts 7:40
1 Cor 8:5
For even if there
are so-called
gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed
there are many
gods
and many
lords,
kai gar eiper eisin (5748) legomenoi
(5746) qeoi eite en ouranw| eite epi ghv, wsper eisin (5748) qeoi polloi kai kurioi polloi,
yet for us
there is but one God, the Father,
from whom
are all
things
and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ,
by whom
are all
things,
and we exist through
Him.
all' hmin eiv qeov o pathr, ec ou ta panta kai hmeiv eiv auton, kai eiv kuriov Ihsouv Xristov, di' ou ta panta kai hmeiv di' autou.
Acts 7:40
SAYING TO
AARON, 'MAKE FOR
US GODS WHO WILL GO BEFORE
US; FOR THIS
MOSES WHO LED US
OUT OF THE LAND
OF EGYPT
--WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
TO 41 "At that time they R346
made a calf F174
and brought a sacrifice to the idol, and were rejoicing in the R347
works of their hands
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God
.What is Valid in Theology and Godhead.htm
Gen 2:4
This is
the account
of the heavens
and the earth
when they were created,
in the day
that the LORD
God made earth and
heaven.
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Open and Study
BiblePublishersAccountableToWho.htm
Another
good reference
Free-Will with the Bottom-Line