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Homoousion CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Reads

(Gr. homoousion - from homos, same, and ousia, essence; Latin consubstantialem, of one essence or substance),

The word used by the Council of Nicaea (325) to express the Divinity of Christ. Arius had taught that the Son, being, in the language of Philo, the Intermediator between God and the world, was not eternal, and therefore not of the Divine substance, but a creature brought forth by the free will of God. (See ARIANISM) Homoousion was indeed used by philosophical writers to signify "of the same or similar substance"; but as the unity of the Divine nature wasn't questioned, the word carried the fuller meaning: "of one and the same substance". However, not only is homos ambiguous? ; the word ousia itself was often taken as equivalent to hypostasis (person), as apparently is the case in the anathema attached to the Nicene Symbol. And therefore the affirmation of the identity of nature might be taken in the heretical sense of the Sabellians, who denied the distinction of person. It was only after many years of controversy that the two words acquired their distinct meanings, and the orthodox were able to describe the Trinity as one in ousia and three in hypostasis or persona. Previously to the Council of Nicaea, Tertullian had already used the Latin equivalent of Homoousion, conceding to Praxeas the Sabellian that the Father and the Son were unius substantiae, of one substance, but adding duarum personarum, of two persons (Adv. Prax., xiii). And Dionysius of Alexandria used the actual word in a letter to Dionysius of Rome (Athan., "De dec. Syn. Nic.", xxv, 26) and again in his letter to Paul of Samosata. On the other hand, Origen, who is, however, inconsistent in his vocabulary, expressed the anti-Sabellian sense of Dionysius of Alexandria by calling the Son "Heteroousion". The question was brought into discussion by the Council of Antioch (264-272); and the Fathers seem to have rejected Homoousion, even going so far as to propose the phrase heteras ousias, that is, Heteroousion, "of other or different ousia". Athanasius and Basil give as the reason for this rejection of Homoousion the fact that the Sabellian Paul of Samosata took it to mean "of the same of similar substance". But Hilary says that Paul himself admitted it in the Sabellian sense "of the same substance or person", and thus compelled the council to allow him the prescriptive right to the expression. Now, if we may take Hilary's explanation, it is obvious that when, half a century afterwards, Arius denied the Son to be of the Divine ousia or substance, the situation was exactly reversed. Homoousion directly contradicted the heretic. In the conflicts which ensued, the extreme Arians persisted in the Heteroousion Symbol. But the Semi-Arians were more moderate, and consequently more plausible, in their Homoiousion (of like substance). When one considers how the four creeds formulated at Antioch (341) by the Semi-Arians approached the Nicene Creed as nearly as possible without the actual word Homoousion, there may be a temptation to think that the question was one of words only; and the Councils of Rimini and Seleucia (359) may seem to have been well advised in their conciliatory formula "that the Son was like the Father in all things, according to the Holy Writ". But this very formula was forced from the Fathers by the Emperor Constantius; and the force and fraud which the Semi-Arians used throughout the greater part of the fourth century, are proof sufficient that the dispute was not merely verbal. The dogma of the Trinity was at stake, and Homoousion proved itself to be in the words of Epiphanius "the bond of faith", or, according to the expression of Marius Victorinus, "the rampart and wall of orthodoxy." (See ARIANISM;

 

CHURCH FATHERS: Letter 9 (St. Basil)

In his writings he exhibits a miscellaneous inconsistency, and is at one time to be found disloyal to the homoousion, because of his opponent who made a bad ...

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FATHERS: Letter 52 (St. Basil)

Of this, some portions are universally accepted without cavil, but the homoousion, ill received in certain quarters, is still rejected by some. ...

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CHURCH FATHERS: On the Trinity, Book IV (Hilary of Poitiers)

They say that this term 'of one substance,' in the Greek homoousion, ... And so they profess to condemn the confession of the homoousion on the ground that ...

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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Eunomianism

The teaching of Arius was condemned by the Council of Nicaea, and the word homoousion adopted as the touchstone of orthodoxy. The subsequent history of ...

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CHURCH FATHERS: Church History, Book II (Socrates Scholasticus)

This, however, is usual with him; he carefully introduces such letters as make no reference to, or wholly repudiate the term homoousion; while he purposely ...

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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope Liberius

... Basil of Ancyra, Eustathius, and Eleusius, to condemn the "Homoousion"; he is induced to sign a combination of three formulæ: that of the Catholic Council of ...

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CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pneumatomachi

The Council of Nicaea had used all its energies in defending the Homoousion of the Son and with regard to the Spirit had already added the words: "We believe ...

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CHURCH FATHERS: Letter 263 (St. Basil)

He no sooner obtained the rank of bishop than he straightway appeared writing an anathema on the Homoousion in the Arians' synod at Ancyra. From thence ...

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CHURCH FATHERS: Letter 214 (St. Basil)

... advance no other reason for refusing to accept the pious opinion of the Fathers than the meaning of the homoousion which they hold in their wickedness, and ...

 

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Homoousion Theology=(is an R/in Unbiblical Word) The word that made Jesus God

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YOU Get-Your query for 'Homoousion' in the 'Greek Lexicon' failed to return any results.

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SBT Note --You get this because 'Homoousion' Homoiousian.it is not a God inspired word.

ETYMOLOGY:

From Greek homoiousios, of similar substance : homoio-, homeo- + ousi, substance (from ousa, feminine present participle of einai, to be; see es- in Appendix I).

Homoiousios is a Pagan word- not a God inspired word/Learn 1 Cor 4:6-

 

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The big thing which happened was the Nicene Creed, was in this way: Most held out at first for a Scriptural language and expression to make clear against the Arians what the catholic doctrine had been, but as the discussions progressed it became evident that there was no Scriptural vocabulary which would correctly express the orthodox teaching. They lighted on a philosophical term) (same substance as) to express what they meant and what had always been the catholic teaching, but there was still needed a formula to summarize and convey their meaning -325nice.html

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Scholars acknowledge that the context here points to the rendering “produced” or “created,” since verses 24 and 25 speak of Wisdom as being “brought forth This rendering is borne out by the Greek Septuagint, the Syriac Peshitta Version and the Targums. So now even translations by Trinitarians, such as the Catholic Jerusalem Bible, use the rendering “produced” or “created.” Review all the below TRANSLATIONS After the NIV Note-Prov8-22.htm

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Koine Greek become more popular in Rome than Latin. One reason was Rome acceptance of all cult religions as long as the Emperor was worshipped as well. One of the titles of the Emperor was the koine word, "kurios," ( ku/riov ) which means "Lord." It was a divine title of the emperor! It was the main word used by the LXX (Septuagint) translators of the Old Testament when they translated the Hebrew word, YHVH.

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It is noteworthy that the New Testament was translated into three languages during the Koine period (b.330 AD), To see how Jesus was described at John 1:1 in the most ancient Coptic texts,

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(1)  Constantine himself proposed the wording of the new church-wide creed. To exclude the viewpoints of Arius, Constantine argued that the Greek term homoousios should be used to describe the relationship of Jesus and His Father. This term is usually translated into English by the phrase, "being of the same substance." ... In fact, several pre-Nicene Christian writers had used that term to describe the Deity of the Son. However, the term doesn't appear anywhere in Scripture, and it had never been included in any of the early congregational creeds. (p. 132)

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When Jesus didn't come back after over 290 years. In 325 A.D.the people assembled together and Declared Jesus to be God and started Worshipping a false mental- Image of God.Compare  Acts 17:29 Image  formed by the art and thought of man. Open -Study Images.htm and Oneness.htmNiceneCouncilOriginalWrittingsWhatDidTheySay.htm-compare Parallel Events Open Exodus32-1-14.htm

Trindirty.htmThere are clear differences between mental perceptions and physical things.

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(4) http://atheism.about.com/library/glossary/western/bldef_homoiousios.htm

wordiq. Homoousion+Homoiousios

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More References

Ousia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ousios

 

New Catholic Dictionary: Homoousion; Homoiousion 

 

http://mb-soft.com/believe/txs/constant.htm 

Newman Reader - >Treatises of St. Athanasius, Vol. 2 --- Homousion, Homœusion 

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 It was one of the major turning points in all of history. For Christendom

In 312, Constantine had a vision of a cross in the sky and he adopted Christianity.

It was one of the major turning points in all of history.

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Battle of Milvian Bridge---Battle of Milvian Bridge on October 28, 312.

The battle is noteworthy also because Constantinian victory was attributed by Christian sources to God.

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Bridge#Events_of_the_battle  plus The Edict of Milan,

 

 Christendom -The seeds of Christendom were laid in 306 A.D., when Emperor Constantine became co-ruler of the Roman Empire. In 312 he converted to Christianity, and in 325 Christianity became the official religion of the Empire.

Constantine1& 2 Established Christianity as the official religion, but he did so by including the Trinity into the official religion. The Trinity is unsupported by the Bible and since Constantine was pagan the concept of Trinity would have sat easily with him. This situation would also go a long way to explain why so many Christians might believe in the Trinity today - due to church tradition.  Note the Trinity concept was formulated as a political solution to Constantine’s problems of stabilizing his empire through compromise on religious issues—This Is-Additional Note Sent in by a Reader-AdditionalNote2.htm

                               Constantine1&2  Established Christianity as the official religion

2.1  The original Nicene Creed of 325

                                                                                   2.2 The Nicene Creed of 381

                                                                 2.3 Comparison between Creed of 325 and Creed of 381                          

 

The haughty Said to Jesus--- JN 7:20

The crowd answered, "You have a demon ! Who seeks to kill You?"  Study WhatDefilesTheMan.htm

 

Constanstine1 Baptism

          Open  [edit] 326-death  Open The Baptism of Constantine, as imagined by students of Raphael.

The Baptism of Constantine, as imagined by students of Raphael.

In 326, Constantine had his eldest son Crispus tried and executed, as he believed accusations that Crispus had been having an affair with Fausta, Constantine's second wife. A few months later he also had Fausta killed as the apparent source of these false accusations.

Eusebius reports that Constantine was baptized only shortly before his death in 337. With this, he followed one custom at the time which postponed baptism till old age or death[6]. According to Jerome, Constantine's choice fell upon the Arian bishop Eusebius of Nicomedia, who happened, despite his being an ally of Arius, still to be the bishop of the region.

Notwithstanding his conversion to Christianity, Constantine was deified, like several other Christian emperors after him. By this late stage of the Empire, deification had lost much of its original religious meaning, and had simply become little more than a posthumous honour.[citations needed] His body was transferred to Constantinople and buried in the Church of the Holy Apostles there.

Eusebius baptised Constantine the Great in 337 just before the death of the Emperor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eusebius_of_Nicomedia

References^ Eusebius of Nicomedia. Catholic Encyclopedia. Retrieved on 2007-02-18.

This article includes content derived from the Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, 1914, which is in the public domain.

 

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When Jesus didn't come back after over 300 years  (the people assembled together)

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