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4 ^ Beduhn
in Truth in Translation: Accuracy and
Bias in English Translations of the New
Testament chapter 11 states: "Translators of the KJV, NRSV,
NIV,
8 ^ Dr. Jason
BeDuhn (of Northern Arizona University) in regard to the Kingdom Interlinear's
appendix that gives the reason why the NWT favoured a translation of John 1:1
as saying the Word was not "God" but "a god" said: "In
fact the
Other
Ref”s Commentary-2-Jn-1-1-A-JW-Expert.htm
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BeDuhns Jn 1:1 List
1. Goodspeed's An American Translation, 1939, "the Word was divine
2. Revised Version-Improved and Corrected, "the word was a god."
3.
Prof. Felix Just, S.J. -
4. Concordant Version (Knoch) "God was the Word"
5. C.C. Torrey, The Four Gospels, Second Edition, 1947, "the Word was god
6. New English Bible, 1961, "what God was,the Word was"
7. Moffatt's The Bible, 1972, "the Logos was divine"
8. International English Bible-Extreme New Testament, 2001, "the Word was God*[ftn. or Deity, Divine, which is a better translation, because the Greek definite article is not present before this Greek word]
9. Reijnier Rooleeuw, M.D. -The New Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, translated from the Greek, 1694, "and the Word was a god"
10.
The
11. Simple English Bible, "and the Message was Deity"
12. Hermann Heinfetter, A Literal Translation of the New Testament,1863, [A]s a god the Command was"
13. Abner Kneeland-The New Testament in Greek and English, 1822, "The Word was a God"
14.
Robert Young, LL.D. (Concise
Commentary on the Holy Bible [
15. Belsham N.T. 1809 “the Word was a god”
16.
Leicester Ambrose, The Final Theology, Volume 1,
17. Charles A.L. Totten, The Gospel of History, 1900, "the Word was Deistic [=The Word was Godly]
18. J.N. Jannaris, Zeitschrift fur die Newtestameutlich Wissencraft, (German periodical) 1901, [A]nd was a god"
19. International Bible Translators N.T. 1981 “In the beginning there was the Message. The Message was with God. The Message was deity.”
20. CEV, "the Word was truly God."
21. Samuel Clarke, M.A., D.D., rector of St. James, Westminster, A Paraphrase on the Gospel of John, London "[A] Divine Person."
22. Joseph Priestley, LL.D., F.R.S. (in A Familiar Illustration of Certain Passages of Scripture Relating to The Power of Man to do the Will of God, Original Sin, Election and Reprobation, The Divinity of Christ; And, Atonement for Sin by the Death of Christ [Philadelphia: Thomas Dobson, 1794], 37). "a God"
23.
Lant Carpenter, LL.D (in Unitarianism in
the Gospels [
24.
Andrews Norton, D.D. (in A Statement of
Reasons For Not Believing the Doctrines of Trinitarians [
25.
Paul Wernle, Professor Extraordinary of
26. 21st Century NT "At the beginning of Creation, there dwelt with God a mighty spirit, the Marshal, who produced all things in their order."
27. 21st Century Literal Free "and the [Marshal] [Word] was a god."
28. George William Horner, The Coptic Version of the New Testament, 1911, [A]nd (a) God was the word"
29. Ernest Findlay Scott, The Literature of the New Testament, New York, Columbia University Press, 1932, "[A]nd the Word was of divine nature"
30. James L. Tomanec, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, 1958, [T]he Word was a God"
31.
Philip Harner,
32. Maximilian Zerwich S.J./Mary Grosvenor, 1974, "The Word was divine"
33. Siegfried Schulz, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1975, "And a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word"
34. Translator's NT, 1973, "The Word was with God and shared his nature ...with footnote, "There is a distinction in the Greek here between 'with God' and 'God.' In the first instance, the article is used and this makes the reference specific. In the second instance there is not article, and it is difficult to believe that the omission is not significant. In effect it gives an adjectival quality to the second use of Theos (God) so that the phrae means 'The Word was divine'."
35. William Barclay's The New Testament, 1976, "the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God"
36. Johannes Schneider, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1978, "and godlike sort was the Logos
37. Schonfield's The Original New Testament, 1985, "the Word was divine
38. Revised English Bible, 1989, "what God was, the Word was
39. Cotton Patch Version, 1970, and the Idea and God were One
40. Scholar's Version-The Five Gospels, 1993, "The Divine word and wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was
41. J. Madsen, New Testament A Rendering , 1994, "the Word was a divine Being"
42. Jurgen Becker, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1979, "a God/god was the Logos/logos"
43. Curt Stage, The New Testament, 1907, "The Word/word was itself a divine Being/being."
44. Bohmer, 1910, "It was strongly linked to God, yes itself divine Being/being"
45. Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme, 1919, "God of Kind/kind was the Word/word"
46. Baumgarten et al, 1920, "God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos"
47. Holzmann, 1926, "ein Gott war der Gedanke" [a God/god was the Thought/thought]
48. Friedriche Rittelmeyer, 1938, "itself a God/god was the Word/word"
49. Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology), 1945, "the Word was of divine kind"
50. Fredrich Pfaefflin, The New Testament, 1949, "was of divine Kind/kind"
51. Albrecht, 1957, "godlike Being/being had the Word/word"
52. Smit, 1960, "the word of the world was a divine being"
53. Menge, 1961, "God(=godlike Being/being) was the Word/word"
54. Haenchen, 1980, "God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos" [as mentioned in William Loader's The Christology of the Fourth Gospel, p. 155 cf. p.260]
55. Die Bibel in heutigem Deutsch, 1982, "He was with God and in all like God"
56. Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk), 1984, "divine (of the category divinity)was the Logos"
57. Johannes Schulz, 1987, "a God/god (or: God/god of Kind/kind) was the Word/word." [As mentioned in William Loader's The Christology of the Fourth Gospel, p. 155 cf. p.260]
58. William Temple, Archbishop of York, Readings in St. John's Gospel, London, Macmillan & Co.,1933, "And the Word was divine."
59. John Crellius, Latin form of German, The 2 Books of John Crellius Fancus, Touching One God the Father, 1631, "The Word of Speech was a God"
60.
Greek Orthodox /Arabic Calendar,
incorporating portions of the 4 Gospels, Greek Orthodox Patriarchy or
61. Ervin Edward Stringfellow (Prof. of NT Language and Literature/Drake University, 1943, "And the Word was Divine"
62. Robert Harvey, D.D., Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Westminster College, Cambridge, in The Historic Jesus in the New Testament, London, Student Movement Christian Press1931 "and the Logos was divine (a divine being)"
63. Jesuit John L. McKenzie, 1965, wrote in his Dictionary of the Bible: "Jn 1:1 should rigorously be translated . . . 'the word was a divine being.'
64. Dymond, E.C. New Testament, 1962 (original manuscript) "In the beginning was the creative purpose of God. It was with God and was fully expressive of God [just as wisdom was with God before creation]."
65. Buzzard/Hunting “In the beginning of God’s creative effort, even before he created the heavenly bodies and the earth, the mental power to reason logically already existed, and the Wisdom produced by it was known only to God, for the Wisdom was God’s Wisdom” (Pro. 8:22-30)
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4 ^ Beduhn in Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in
English Translations of the New Testament chapter 11 states:
"Translators of the KJV, NRSV, NIV,
8 ^ Dr. Jason BeDuhn (of Northern Arizona University) in
regard to the Kingdom Interlinear's appendix that gives the reason why the NWT
favoured a translation of John 1:1 as saying the Word was not "God"
but "a god" said: "In fact the
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The following discussion of the grammar of John 1:1 is excellent, even if somewhat brief. It can be found at:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/2003-July/025847.html
What about John 1:1 in the NWT?
Well, I will let Greek Scholar Jason BeDuhn from the
"The Greek phrase is theos en ho logos, which
translated word for word
is "a god was the word."
Greek has only a definite article, like our the, it
does not have an
indefeinite article, like our a or an. If a noun is definite, it has the
definite article ho. If a noun is indefinite, no article is used. In the
phrase from John 1:1, ho logos is "the
word." If it was written simply
logos, without the definite article ho, we would have to translate it as
"a word". So we are not really "inserting" an indefinite
article when we
translate Greek nouns without the definite article into English, we are
simply obeying rules of English grammar that tell us that we cannot say
"Snoopy is dog," but must say "Snoopy is a dog."
Now in English we simply say "God"; we do not say
"The God." But in
Greek, when you mean to refer to the one supreme God, instead of one of the
many other beings that were called "gods," you would have to say
"The God": ho theos. Even a monotheistic
Christian, who beleives there is only one God and no others, would be forced to
say in Greek "The God," as John and Paul and the other writers of the
New Testament normally do. If you leave off the article in a phrase like John
1:1, then you are saying "a god." (There are some exceptions to this
rule: Greek has what are called noun cases, which means the nouns change form
depending on how they are used in a sentence. So, if you want to say "of
God," which is theou, you don't need the article. But in the nominative
case, which is the one in John 1:1, you have to have the article.)
So what does John mean by saying "the word was a god"? He is classifying Jesus in a specific category of beings. There are plants and animals and humans and gods, and so on. By calling the Word "a god," John wants to tell his readers that the Word(which becomes Jesus when it takes flesh) belongs to the divine class of things. Notice the word order: "a god was the word." We can't say it like this in English, but you can in Greek.
The subject can be after the verb and the object before the verb,
the
opposite of how we do it in English (subject-verb-object). Research has shown
that when ancient Greek writers put a object-noun first in a
sentence like John 1:1 (a be-verb sentence: x is y), without the
definite article, they are telling us that the subject belongs to the
class represented by the object-noun: :"The car
is a Volkswagen." In
English we would accomplish the same thing by using what we call
predicate adjectives. "John is a smart person" = "John is
smart." So we
would tend to say "The word was divine," rather than "The word
was a
god." That is how I would translate this phrase. "The word was a
god" is more literal, and an improvement over "The word was
God," but it raises more problems, since to a modern reader it implies
polytheism.
No one in John's day would have understood the phrase to mean "The word
was God" - the language does not convey that sense, and conceptually it is
difficult to grasp such an idea, especially since that author has just said
that the word was with God. Someone is not with himself, he is with some other.
John clearly differentiates between God from the Word.
The latter becomes flesh and is seen; the former cannot be seen. What is the
Word? John says it was the agent through whom God made the world. He starts his
gospel "In the beginning..." to remind us of Genesis 1. How does God
create in Genesis? He speaks words that make things come into existence. So the
Word is God's creative power and plan and activity. It is not God himself, but
it is not really totally separate from God either. It occupies a kind of
ambiguous status. That is why a monotheist like John can get away with calling
it "a god" or "divine" without becoming a polytheist. This
divine thing does not act on its own, however, does take on a kind of distinct
identity, and in becoming flesh brings God's will and plan right down face to
face with humans.
I hope this helps.
Best wishes
Jason Beduhn
Northern Arizona University
Department of Humanities Arts and Religion
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Eric S. Weiss
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